No, it was reiterated but success looks thin for now, the "terrorist" rhetoric to point at the adversaries in a conflict along territorial ethno linguistic lines has all the components to produce disastrous abuse of the civilians population associated as well as lower the moral standards of Gov troops engaged on the ground. It was underlined the Donbass region inhabitants are not engaged in military type operations to submit anyone to an ideology, any other type of mental alienation or ethnic domination but to defend their rights, the illegal characterisation of their action should have appeared a more appropriate wording of the opposition between the central Gov and the desire for the Donbass communities to enjoy a protection of their rights.
So to answer you, yes it was at least twice mentioned that in order to avoid a repeat of the Odessa's type of consequences Kiev must act responsibly and be extremely cautious on the rhetoric as next to the divide opposing the two sides which is the type of institutional relations between the local communities of the Donbass region and Kiev centralised Gov, the divide is also along ethno-linguistic lines with no member at all of the communities opposing the Gov in the armed forces intervening, posing the threat of unreported wrong doing of armed forces on civilian population.
As you know up to this date, Kiev has ignored the warnings... what do you suggest,
vendredi 13 juin 2014
Not quite yet, last night the roundup showed the situation was still deteriorating, Rostov as expected now feeling the pain with all its available temporary accommodations filled. The day before a video was posted from a summer camp type of residence in Rostov region by a group of ladies ashtag don't kill us. On Wednesday, the flux of refugees topped 8000 according to Itar reports as again reports not independently confirmed of use by the Gov armed forces of illegal ammunition surface.
1) "In the region there are almost 4,000 refugees, there 1,800 are children,” he said. “The situation is getting more complicated. The refugees are not coming in groups any longer, they are getting here on their own. We are meeting them, and take to Russia’s other regions.”
2) “Another 9,925 Ukraine’s citizens with children entered the Rostov region on Wednesday. We sent four buses full of people to Russia’s other region (Ukraine’s 181 citizens with children),” Astakhov wrote. “People are running from the war and violence.”
1) "In the region there are almost 4,000 refugees, there 1,800 are children,” he said. “The situation is getting more complicated. The refugees are not coming in groups any longer, they are getting here on their own. We are meeting them, and take to Russia’s other regions.”
He added the region managed as yet to cope with the problems, but “the times are tough.”
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/7359102) “Another 9,925 Ukraine’s citizens with children entered the Rostov region on Wednesday. We sent four buses full of people to Russia’s other region (Ukraine’s 181 citizens with children),” Astakhov wrote. “People are running from the war and violence.”
Besides, on June 11 the Rostov region’s towns accommodated 687 people, including 282 children.
“The Rostov region practically does not have opportunities for hosting the refugees,” he stressed. “We are using now the Saratov, Volgograd, Tula, Ryazan and other regions.”
During the week between June 4th and 11th, from Rostov Ukraine’s 1,106 people, including 547 children, were taken to Russia’s other regions.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/735924mardi 10 juin 2014
It is hard to tell when it is not independently confirmed but "Indiscriminate shelling of cities constitutes a foreseeable and unacceptable targeting of civilians," has been the UN Commissioner position as to when a war crime under the Geneva convention may be under way and again Itar reports
1) The report said almost all the regions have already made known their readiness to receive the people resettling from the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which have evidenced the scenes of heavy fighting and attacks by pro-government forces on population centers.
2) Earlier on Tuesday it has been reported that two children died in a new attack of the Ukrainian army on the city of Sloviansk.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/735678
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/735585
1) The report said almost all the regions have already made known their readiness to receive the people resettling from the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which have evidenced the scenes of heavy fighting and attacks by pro-government forces on population centers.
2) Earlier on Tuesday it has been reported that two children died in a new attack of the Ukrainian army on the city of Sloviansk.
“We have information that two children were killed — a 12-year-old boy and a six-year-old girl,” Ilya Suzdalev, spokesperson for the Donetsk Regional State Administration, specified, adding that they died from fragmentation wounds.
A militia representative told ITAR-TASS that there had been victims in Monday's shelling of the city and four houses had been damaged.
“People are being killed every day. The death toll keeps growing,” Stella Khorosheva, spokesperson for Sloviansk's people's mayor, said.
“Ukrainian law-enforcers resumed shelling of Sloviansk late on Monday,” she said. “Several shells exploded in the city center.”
The number of reports mentioning indiscriminate shelling is growing and is a signal among others such as the rhetoric used that the Gov armed forces may be under the influence of the type of mind set leading to war crimes already seen at the Odessa event.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/735678
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/735585
lundi 9 juin 2014
That's just a bit of it I had kept to go through the numbers "As many as five to six million out of Ukraine’s 18-million employable population work in Russia enjoying privileged terms of sojourn as compared with other foreigners, Russian President Vladimir Putin told journalists on Friday. “If Ukraine joins the European Union, we will have to think how to settle this aspect of our relations,” he stressed.
“We have a special sojourn regime for Ukrainian citizens in Russia,” Putin noted. “The regime is even more privileged than the one for citizens of countries of the Eurasian Economic Union, the citizens of which are allowed to stay in Russia for a month, while Ukrainian citizens can stay, or, as a matter of fact, work in Russia for three months without registration. And what do they do when this three-month term expires? They do not even leave Russia - they just send their passports to Ukraine for being stamped.”
“Well, there are many questions which require a serious approach. I hope contacts with the European Commission will be resumed,” Putin added."
What I was thinking of, is, apart from the compatriots resettlement program, the growing flow of refugees to speed up the review of live and work visas, who and on which basis people get jobs? What do they say?
Not quite the number is growing and according to Itar reports Ukrainian border agents are promising families leaving that they will never be let back in from Russia confirming that Ukrainian armed forces are expected to keep up shelling urban areas in the South East forcing out as many civilians as possible from a region supporting rights for the Russian speaking community. About 20,000 women and children from southeastern Ukraine have crossed the Ukrainian-Russian border to the Rostov Region in the last three days. Over the last day 7,335 Ukrainian citizens entered the Rostov Region, the regional government said on Monday.On June 6, more than 12,000 Ukrainian residents were reported to arrive in Russia. After leaving cities and towns in the southeast, which are in the zone of fighting, most of the people move farther via Rostov. Some remain in temporary accommodation centres prepared by the Rostov region's authorities for refugees." (Article here)
Given the number and to ease the pressure on the local economies of the regions close to the Ukrainian border, check but think I did email u an article related to President Putin speaking of Ukrainian workers crossing the border daily to fill jobs in Russia to be reconsidered making me wonder whether these well paying positions can be filled by the refugees if accommodation can be found moving north along the border with Ukraine for all these families.< /span>
Given the number and to ease the pressure on the local economies of the regions close to the Ukrainian border, check but think I did email u an article related to President Putin speaking of Ukrainian workers crossing the border daily to fill jobs in Russia to be reconsidered making me wonder whether these well paying positions can be filled by the refugees if accommodation can be found moving north along the border with Ukraine for all these families.< /span>
jeudi 5 juin 2014
Russia PM today declared to Itar "About 3,000 people are arriving only in the Rostov Region every day. This is an unprecedented situation," Medvedev has said. About 4,000 Ukrainian citizens have asked Russia for a refugee status, he added.
"I've called the Rostov region governor over this topic," Medvedev said at a government session on Thursday" "He (the governor) said, 'These are mostly women and children'," the Russian premier said. (http://en.itar-tass.com/world/734859)
The EU hasn't been very vocal when the most disaffected ethnic Russians were somewhat punished in the Baltics and were asked to foot the bill for the decades these nations had to live under the Soviet rules. Unable to hit back at Soviet leaders their hidden anger turned onto the newly disadvantaged. Knowing the strong possibility to see a repeat of the same pattern of behaviours following the unconstitutional removal of the Ukrainian gov, it was legitimate to expect a more cautious support to the new authorities policies towards the Russian community.
It did not happen and the difficult relations between the new Ukrainian gov and Russia associated with the view they are widely unconditional Kremlin "operatives" in need of a lesson looks to have achieved the admissibility of the most ugly policies otherwise intolerable.
mercredi 4 juin 2014
No I agree that many facts that are confirmed point to yes the goals of the history of Kiev decisions since the change of Gov were to radicalise the largest possible chunk of the Russian speaking community, create an open armed confrontation in the areas less favourable to the new regime and presenting electoral risks, use disproportionately armed forces to scare civilian population moving from Odessa to Crimea or Donetsk and region to Roston and Russia, but the missing bit is a testimony from an insider seeking redemption.... I mean for now
Don't know since these numbers if confirmed clearly indicate that there will be a very narrow choice of motives to justify Kiev disproportionate use of military force in the Donetsk region when associated with the choice to confront the civilian parades of May 9th to undermine the underlying culture of the celebration. That is my state of mind but we r only a few days away from their return and we will know more but
(About 4,000 Ukrainian refugees seek temporary asylum or refugee status in Russia there r more articles) it is very disappointing.
Not much among the things u may have missed the growing number of refugees fleeing Ukraine Itar mentions which points the degree of violence Kiev Armed Forces submit civilian population under the umbrella of fighting terrorism looking a little more everyday like ethnic cleansing of the South East A record number of more than 7,000 refugees came to southern Russia’s Rostov Region from Ukraine on June 3, Russian Presidential Children’s Rights Commissioner Pavel Astakhov said in his microblog Twitter on Wednesday.
“A record number of more than 7,000 Ukrainian citizens came to Rostov Region over the past day. The number of refugees is growing every day,” the children’s ombudsman said in his microblog. Overnight to June 2 30 children and 26 adults crossed the border by foot from east Ukraine’s Donetsk Region to Rostov Region. All of them are accommodated for leisure and recuperation courses. Fourteen children will go in transit to southern Russia’s Stavropol. (http://en.itar-tass.com/world/734653)
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